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Nicola Sturgeon threatens to block Brexit.

That, like the suggestion to have another Brexit vote, would be a very bad idea. The reason's simple...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots

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Date: 2016-06-27 03:48 am (UTC)
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Not sure what the riots have to do with anything. Have the police shot a man then beaten a teenage girl senseless when she threw something at a protest?

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Date: 2016-06-27 05:01 am (UTC)
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Scotland voted to stay in, she's the glorified council leader in charge of Scotland. She was very clear all the way through that a vote to leave the EU was a vote to destroy Britain, lots of people didn't believe her, now she's playing it as best she can.

And lots of people that voted to leave are already angry they were lied to.

I think we should probably actually go through the motions of leaving then have a second "did you really mean that you fucking morons" vote, because it'd go the other way if it was held today, let alone in 6 months time.

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Date: 2016-06-27 05:04 am (UTC)
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Having said all that, what she believes and factual reality are detached here, Westminster can overrule Holyrood on this, she can't actually do what she says. But she's playing the cards she's got well because there's enough leeway in the legislation to require a court ruling.

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Date: 2016-06-27 06:00 am (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
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It already is.

The problem is that Spain will block any seceding country from joining, regardless, as they fear Catalunya and Euskadi doing the exact same thing.

Her only real chance is for Scotland and possibly NI to inherit UK membership while E&W leave the UK. Which is really messy and can't be done quickly.

Plus it'd probably need a referendum to ask E&W if they really did want to break up Britain (which is frankly doomed at this point anyway, it only just survived last time and the demographics point the wrong way unlike EU membership).

There's also talk of Northern England splitting off, not sure where that came from as the leave vote was just as strong, but it might actually work.

It's all gone horribly weird and I doubt anyone has the political authority to sort it out before Christmas. Except her.

Certainly no one at Westminster.

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Date: 2016-06-27 05:44 am (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
From: [personal profile] matgb
Put up with it, no, and rightly so, but it's definitely the heir presumptive's plan, there's no way Johnson is thinking of actually leaving, it's all a stupid power play by idiots who've conned the voters with lies.

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